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Forum changes?

Discussion in 'Community News' started by nicatronTg, Mar 5, 2020.

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Keep forums around?

Poll closed Mar 19, 2020.
  1. Yes (follow Discourse upgrade plan)

    96.9%
  2. No (all data deletion)

    3.1%
  1. nicatronTg

    nicatronTg Shank / hakusaro
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    Hey TShockers,

    It's been a very long time since the TShock project started. We know that people use the forums for a lot of things, including plugin downloads. Unfortunately, though, running the forums has created a lurking nightmare for me. The nightmare is essentially that XenForo, the forum software that we use, is based on PHP, and the underlying stack behind it is getting quite old. We're on old hardware too, which means that we should probably upgrade to some more modern hardware. All of this requires work.

    So, I'm putting it to the community: should these forums stay? Please vote in the poll attached to this thread.

    If the answer is yes:
    • The forums will be upgraded to Discourse, moved to Azure, and perpetually kept up to date by the magic of automatic updates.
    • All user accounts (save for permanently banned users and spam bots) and all posts will move. Forum PMs, profile posts, and other data will be lost. You'll have plenty of time to save this and move it if you want.
    • All "resources" (plugins) will be moved in some way even though they aren't forum threads.
    • Still not accepting donations, but functionally, we'll be on Azure hardware with a super modern OS, database, CDN, and all that fun stuff you come to expect from a modern website.
    • We won't run Discourse like animals. That means no default daily digest emails, no "we missed you here are some updates you don't care about" emails. We'll do it right!
    If the answer is no:
    • The forums will be set to read only eventually.
    • The plugins will be backed up / moved to some other place where we can keep them archived.
    • The forums will be removed and all data will be lost.
    • The website will become a static site hosted on GitHub Pages with forums available download, links to discord, telegram, and ReadMe for questions.
    In this poll, the default option is no. The number of yes votes must exceed the number of no votes. There must be a minimum of 300 votes or the default, no, will be selected. If you currently use the forums just to download plugins or get answers to support questions and haven't made an account, you absolutely need to make an account if you want these forums to stay around.

    I will be around in this thread to answer questions, and available in Telegram at t.me/pryaxis. Stay safe from COVID-19 and please vote appropriately.

    Lucas
     
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  2. Kojiro_S

    Kojiro_S Level 11

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    Honestly, the only reason I currently see to keep forums around is as backup documentation for old, abandoned plugins that no longer have their instruction manual anywhere.
     
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  3. nicatronTg

    nicatronTg Shank / hakusaro
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    We definitely do not want to lose the plugin docs no matter what. The problem we have is that the significant portion of TShock help material that exists on this site is related to old versions that don't work anyway. So that's kind of not worth keeping around to me.

    The other thing is that some users may be in contact with other users only via the forums. It's not super likely but I'm not going to go snooping in someone's PMs to find out.
     
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  4. Jiao

    Jiao Level 0

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    I always hope the forum will live,Although I don't come here often,but some times it is more than useful.
     
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  5. nicatronTg

    nicatronTg Shank / hakusaro
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    Fair. Thank you.
     
  6. KceGio

    KceGio Level 0

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    9/14 days in and only 25/300 votes :(
     
  7. nicatronTg

    nicatronTg Shank / hakusaro
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    It makes me sad too.
     
  8. nicatronTg

    nicatronTg Shank / hakusaro
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    I made the notice a bit more red to grab people's attention.
     
  9. Kojiro_S

    Kojiro_S Level 11

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    Well, the fact that there's barely any response kind of proves your point on how it's became no-man's land.
     
  10. sketaful

    sketaful Level 2

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    For me it doesn't really matter one way or the other anymore. I usually want to make a dedicated server with som enice plugins, check this site, notice most fun plugins are dated and then I skip it all together.

    It's sad, but I feel Terraria in it self is more of a game to play with some friends. And I have good friends enought not to need to protect stuff. So at the end of the day it's either a pure server for fun or a modded one to add some content.
     
  11. NAGU

    NAGU Level 5

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    I don't want this site to disappear :{
     
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  12. nicatronTg

    nicatronTg Shank / hakusaro
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    Right now, we're pretty much leaning towards using GitHub Discussions (an early beta we have access to) for questions & answers, archives, and live chat. Probably the most viable solution right now.
     
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  13. Nezbednik

    Nezbednik Level 1

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    is the project going to die though?
     
  14. nicatronTg

    nicatronTg Shank / hakusaro
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    Unlike most open source projects, the contributors who develop things are pretty decentralized. There are a lot of team members, some of which are more active than others. From an organizational standpoint, Chris and Ijwu are equivalent to me in terms of what they have access to. Chris tends to write more code these days. Our two newest team members -- both from China -- also have their own talents.

    In terms of active development and whether or not we're continuing official support and stuff, we're still on the hook and still working on things (albeit, slowly). The biggest issue right now is simply that we don't know what direction the game is going in, where the game is going to end up, etc. Re-Logic hasn't really given us any more notice than anyone else as to what they have planned. We develop the software because people continue to use it. If people don't continue to use it, we won't continue to develop it.

    But right now, things are continuing.