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[v1.9] Custom Monsters Plugin

Discussion in 'Unsupported / Outdated Plugins' started by vharonftw, Oct 28, 2011.

  1. NeonJ

    NeonJ Level 1

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    Because I can't.
    And plugins which completely restrict people to extremely basic features just because you don't donate are quite frankly a way of ripping people off. Donating is just that - DONATING. Not buying, like this plugin is.
     
  2. DarkOS

    DarkOS tShock supporter and programming hack.

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    ripping people off? wow

    you are seriously mislead my friend. my advice, dont use any plugin where you feel the writer of said free plugin is "ripping people off"
     
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  3. Episode

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    well I made a donation beceause i wanted extra features, i had no issues doing that at all. But still haven't recieved a link to download this plugin! despite messaging the developer
     
  4. XJes6

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    Dont worry, you should make some mobs with the public version until Vharonftw gives you the plugin
    he has many things in mind and have lots to do, in case tshock works with v 1.1...

    it is not hard to donate :p
    just get a job or ask ur parents for cash
    then buy a credit card, gift card, or paypal for donations
    if you dont like it then dont use it, simple as that.
    If it has basic features, then why dont you try to make plugins?
     
  5. vharonftw

    vharonftw Testing until the end

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    sorry mate.. haven't checked my email for some time... been quite busy with other ventures. i just woke up and i'm feeling a little downhearted bout the Tshock issue. In any case, with regards to your "donation" i've sent the file to you. Enjoy. But i felt very insulted by what you did. just wanted to let you know.

    in your case, yes i admit that what i'm doing will give off a certain view that i'm selling this plugin. but i did post somewhere in this thread that, i'll be working on moving a few features donator side to public side but won't be doing so until the next patch. in any case, its just like darkos said. If you don't want to donate then that's up to you. wait for me to release the features you need/want onto the public version there's no harm in waiting you know. or if you still think you're not getting the features you want, post a monster here and i'll see if its a good idea to hardcode it into the plugin. But if that is still not good enough for you and think that you deserve to get everything for free, let me ask you this: Why?

    why should you be entitled to someone else's work without you even the acknowledging efforts of the person who put his effort onto it. have you any idea how much time i put into these things? well im not going to go about in detail about how hard it is to code these, because i enjoy it. What i don't enjoy, and what i won't stand for are people who think that it is their god given right to have me work for them, or people who take my(or even other people's) work for granted
     
  6. Pssartist

    Pssartist Testing until the end

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    Neon, lots i want to say to you but won`t. Lots i want to do to you but can`t (i can`t reach you from here).

    Nasty ignorrant posts like that are hurtful and out of order. You`re another example of "i`m online so i can be a total bananaing wanker and nobody can do anything about it". I don`t know why i`m even responding to you because you`re obviously a cantaloupe fool with a lack of respect (so i`ll treat you like one). But i will support vharon here.

    Vharonftw - creator of Custom Monsters, ServerEPRSystem, lots of smaller custom plugins, Founding member and brain behind the TerraVI server alliance, the list goes on and on and on. And not once has he ever begged for or required a donation for his work.
    In fact i think vharon SHOULD require a price for most of his plugins, as they are epic undertakings for one man, and he does them all alone. And the likes of you do not deserve even the free versions of his plugins.

    If you took the time to remove your head from your arse for 10 minutes and made the effort to read around the forums, you would have realised that vharon does this out of passion and for the love of Terraria and it`s community. The work he does see`s that the community survives and continues to grow, and is always the one with the ideas on longterm benefits for the online community of Terraria.

    If you`re going to hate on anyone, hate your parents for not teaching you any manners, and hate the cantaloupe banana ups they have in schools nowadays teaching you kids about respect. They`re the ones that failed and need addressing. Vharon is a saint and should be recognised as such. Sorry if i`m sounding ranty, and i`ll accept any infraction you want to give me. But i will not stand for ignorrant, narrowminded, and "anonymous and untouchable" wankery posts like this.

    I`ll vent my spleen all over the place until you people start to pay attention. Read and learn and pay attention outside of your own little worlds, become less IGNORRANT

    *EDIT* And if you do ever donate, don`t make it an insulting amount. That`s worse then crying about not having it all for free.
     
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  7. vharonftw

    vharonftw Testing until the end

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    i srsly did not do that much (really)... and in what way am i a saint?!?! wth? lol

    in any case i appreciate you standing up for me but i think a line's been crossed sumwhere idk ... but yeah ty and to if any offense was taken i apologize on Pssartist's behalf

    but in any case, the reason i ask for donations is clear, its for maintenance costs. i do all of these in my spare time and whether i like it or not i spend a little money whenever i do it. sure the costs may be negligible if YOU look at it, but where i'm from its really not. here turning on the computer just to fix a few bugs or work on a new project racks up my electric bill high enough to exceed my estimated monthly budget

    where i live is still basically considered a 3rd world country, and here money is hard to come by. Now i'm not saying i'm going to charge you money for using my plugins, in fact if i had it my way, these would all be free. But yeah, i recently quit my job to finish my studies in college. Now i know that's not your problem but it still doesn't make things any easier for me.

    well whatever right? I'm an grapes for asking for donations. but yeah that there above is my reason for being an trout.. what's yours?
     
  8. Pssartist

    Pssartist Testing until the end

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    I`ve personally seen the work you do in the community and use your plugins. You are more than a saint in my eyes.

    And don`t apologise for me, i`m old enough and ugly enough to be responsible for myself. Don`t insult me when i`m venting and busting veins for you.

    Anyway, ill accept any infraction or ban like i said. I won`t stand for attacks on people that are doing good work.
     
  9. vharonftw

    vharonftw Testing until the end

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    sorry for posting again, but that comment really offended me.. and made me re-think if how i'm asking for donations is fair or not. so i thought about it and i came up with this:

    the way i see it is like this. Say i'm a tailor and i had made an exquisite pair of pants with 2 pockets. i then make several pairs of them and leave them on the street with a sign saying "free pants" then i also put up another sign saying "if the pants i gave you broke, just tell me and i'll fix it for free". then i made an exact copy of those pants but this time it had 4 pockets. i put up a sign next to my old one saying "I'm in need of help, if you help me i'll sew on 2 new pockets onto your pants"

    now riddle me this: would it be wrong for me to ask help in exchange for adding pockets to your pants? even though the pants were originally mine and i just gave them to you?

    Just because there's something better doesn't make it wrong to have anything less.

    or just because i can give you 2 apples doesn't make it wrong for me to give you just one. wanting them both for free thinking that it is your right to have them is just greed. And yes we are all susceptible to this but it doesn't mean we should give in. we have a saying for that where i come from

    Look it up
     
  10. Episode

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    name:Drill_Shark basename:Shark basetype:65 swenabled:true spawnswith:1 spawnswithrate:5000 life:5000 swreplace:true shootslasers:true laserdamage:15 caisenabled:true customaistyle:6 lavaimmune:true behindtiles:true notilecollide:true nogravity:true laserstyle:1 shoottime:2 boss:true spawnmessage:Drill_Has_Awoken!_RAWR_PEW!_PEW!


    name:zombie basename:zombie basetype:65 swenabled:true spawnswith:1 spawnswithrate:5000 life:200 swreplace:true shootslasers:true laserdamage:15 caisenabled:true customaistyle:6 lavaimmune:true behindtiles:true notilecollide:true nogravity:true laserstyle:1 shoottime:2 boss:true spawnmessage:Drill_Has_Awoken!_RAWR_PEW!_PEW!




    So if i put that in a text file of which comes with the download, and remove everything else this will work?
    I want to have multiple names as above.
     
  11. vharonftw

    vharonftw Testing until the end

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    um you need line breaks..
     
  12. Pssartist

    Pssartist Testing until the end

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    Apologies. I was tired and didn`t even give my ramblings a 2nd thought. Won`t happen again
     
  13. Olink

    Olink Admin note: Actually a really nice person now

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    I dont infraction the truth. I liked your post for one reason. "wanker".
     
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  14. NeonJ

    NeonJ Level 1

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    What I can't stand is people who force people to pay for features that should be available to everyone. And I said I couldn't donate, it is physically impossible for me. I like the idea of donator features, but when it comes to the point that use of the plugin is severely crippled because you can't donate, then it becomes a problem. What's the point of turning "Blitzer" on in the free version if there's no way to choose what "blitzes"? As with the lasers, there's no way to control the damage (Though shooting style could stay as a donate feature)

    What would be really neat for donators would be a coding API thing where people could just code their own enemies off existing ones. I know it's probably not gonna happen, but one can hope, haha. Think tConfig - the "donator" features would be the code files while the "free" features would be the .ini files, that's how I see it anyway. These are just my opinions though.
     
  15. vharonftw

    vharonftw Testing until the end

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    Like i said i am moving the some of the features of the donator version to the public version whilst adding more features to the donator version.. This trend may continue for a while adding the old donator features to the public version while adding new features to the donator version though some features may remain inaccessible to the public version.. at any rate i am not forcing you to donate for these features, if you don't want to use it then you're free not to.. if you feel its too restrictive for you, then don't use it at all.. lets set the record straight i am not forcing you to use this plugin let alone donate for extra features.

    the fact that you can't choose what a custom monster blitzes with is because of the original purpose of the code.. "Blitzing" was originally defined by keui (creator of the pinky's revenge server mod, also where this mod was adapted from) as shooting Chaos orbs, i just took it a step further by making it so that you can change the chaos orbs to whatever monster you like (in this case the burning sphere is the default not chaos orbs)

    I took this project on because someone requested me to. i made the features they wanted me to create and as part of the deal i made this project available to the public. Upon completion of that project which made 1 version, i added other features that i thought would be interesting and made a better version and then installed that into my server. i then posted both versions one for public download and another for people who want to support its development. What was the point of that statement? well here it is: This my project, therefore the decision to share it with others is totally up to me. You have no right whatsoever to this plugin. no right at all. The fact that it is available for download is like having me do free work for you, if you don't like it then don't accept it, but if you find that its helpful to some degree, then just say thanks, or you could choose to not say anything at all. its up to you. I'm not even asking for your gratitude. But the fact that you're even asking for more features and saying that it is your god-freaking-given right to have them is completely INFURIATING! Its like having me build a house for you for FREE and then asking me to add another floor again for free just because the house wasn't good enough for you. WHERE IN THE BLAZES OF HELL DID THAT F**KING LOGIC COME FROM?!? WHAT THE F**K?

    so here's the deal, you have these options:
    1. Stick with the public version and wait for me (the one that's doing the work) to transfer the donator features to the public one,
    2. Donate to show that you want this project to continue and so you can get the new features sooner,

      or if you don't like these options you can always go with this option (and i do highly recommend this one)
    3. GTFO YOUR FREELOADING trout AND WRITE YOUR OWN GOD FORSAKEN CODE AND STOP DEPENDING ON ME OR OTHER PEOPLE TO DO IT FOR YOU!!!!
    Respectfully,
    Vharonftw
     
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  16. Lord_Richard

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    I respect that this is your opinion, however, here's mine.

    Vharon has made a plugin, and given a free version to you for just that, free. It still has functions.
    1. Raising monster HP
    2. Monster debuff changing (affected by fire?)
    3. What it shoots, (Lazers and blitz)
    4. Spawning message
    5. Is this monster a boss?
    6. Does this monster spawn naturally?
    Vharon gives you a free product, it's free. Nothing to buy, nothing that you need to give for it. (Apart from HDD) There is nothing stopping you from not downloading this if you think it's bad. If you did like it, just say thanks. Don't need to be so passive agressive (Even though i'm being sorta like that)

    But yeah, this is just my opinion on what should be done, i can't do anything to change your mind.

    And OT : Awesome job vharon!
     
  17. WhiskeyD

    WhiskeyD Level 2

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    Hey Vharon, if this project (and the Server EPR system) are continuing over to 1.1, I will definitely be donating (probably just after christmas when I have the money spare ;) - and I mean a reasonable donation, not a measly token amount ).
    These mods really helped my server over the last month or so, and gave my poor admin team a break from being begged for free stuff and to spawn pinky slimes - without them, it would be nowhere near as fun or popular as it has been, especially when you put 4 players in an arena with 10 of your hell pinky slimes.

    Thanks very much for all the awesome work you've done so far, and please, please continue on to 1.1. :)
     
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  18. vharonftw

    vharonftw Testing until the end

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    i'll be continuing onto 1.1 thanks to the tshock team ^__^
    with regards to the hell pinky thing.. i have them shutoff in my server and replaced them with my own Pink flurry (Hell pinky was Keui's creation ... well the idea, i had to recode everything into a plugin though since i didnt wanna make a full blown server wrapper). the Pink flurry is exactly like a hell pinky but it has lower Point drop (EPR) and multiplies up to 512 times xD its a real hoot to play with.. though from what i've seen its best to summon only 1 since summoning 2 of them will lag an ordinary server quite a lot xD
     
  19. WhiskeyD

    WhiskeyD Level 2

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    Yeah, I noticed one of my old admin staff farming shards off them, because default they only do 1 damage. He also had the /ladylucksmileson multiplier.... I checked later, he had farmed over 450,000 shards in 10 minutes.
     
  20. NeonJ

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    I'm not saying anything like that. I'm just saying that I believe the public version is too restrictive and seems more like a free trial than an actual usable plugin. I was just trying to give constructive criticism, but if this is how I'm gonna get treated..

    Also, your example with the house is totally off-mark. You just created your own twisted logic and then insulted it, wow.